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A bit further below you can read John of the Cross’s last poem which he wrote when he finally had become completely ONE with God.
John of the Cross was a Carmelite priest and mystic who put his “up and down” experiences with God biblically founded down on paper until he reached the whole unity (i.e., unio mystica) with God through Jesus Christ. That poem was one of the first writings I had read from him when I came to know God’s living flame which had just begun to burn exceedingly high in my heart in the year 2000.
At that time I hoped that I had already finished my long way with God, that is, I thought I had reached the goal of perfect unity with Him. But, alas, it was only the beginning of a long, both blissful and painful way that led me closer and closer to Him. During the following years when I often thought that God would be silent and all the darkness inside me deeper than ever, He had been far closer than ever before, yet my birdbrain could not yet grasp it. God’s indwelling of a human being is indeed a divine mystery.
John of the Cross explained in his writings that the light of God that wants to transform (or sanctify) our souls is always loving and tender. However, our naturally darkened souls are not used to the brightness of His light and therefore they shrink back as soon as they are confronted with it.
And so it was for me. Whenever His light revealed another “dark spot” that had been hidden in my subconscious, I really wanted to run and hide my sudden “nakedness” and transparency before Him who is perfect. Nonetheless, the more our souls get used to the light and accept its work in our hearts and minds, the more we can feel that God, truly, loves us unconditionally. Indeed, I never heard God heaping reproaches on me or blaming me for my mistakes or sins. Instead, His presence has always been comforting and sooo tender because He always embraces our whole being (body, mind, and soul) with His LOVE.
Well, here’s John’s poem which he wrote and explained “on demand” for Doña Ana de Peñalosa, a Catholic laywoman.
The Living Flame Of Love
Songs of the soul in the intimate communication of loving union with God.
1. O living flame of love
that tenderly wounds my soul
in its deepest center! Since
now you are not oppressive,
now consummate! if it be your will:
tear through the veil of this sweet encounter!
2. O sweet cautery,
O delightful wound!
O gentle hand! O delicate touch
that tastes of eternal life
and pays every debt!
In killing you changed death to life.
3. O lamps of fire!
in whose splendors
the deep caverns of feeling,
once obscure and blind,
now give forth, so rarely, so exquisitely,
both warmth and light to their Beloved.
4. How gently and lovingly
you wake in my heart,
where in secret you dwell alone;
and in your sweet breathing,
filled with good and glory,
how tenderly you swell my heart with love.
(Poem taken from http://www.poetseers.org/spiritual-and-devotional-poets/christian/the-works-of-st-john-of-the-cross/the-living-flame-of-love/)
From my own experience I can say that life in and with God is not something theoretical, it is neither about talk, nor about reading the Bible or other books, nor is it about fellowshipping with others, and it is not about church, either – all these things are secondary. It is primarily about becoming more and more ONE through divine love with Him who fills the whole universe with His Life.
As a further explanation, below is a rather short quote I copied and pasted in order to point to the fact that there are indeed serious theologians “out there” 😉 who write about the truth of life in God. Richard P. Hardy (PhD, Professor of Spirituality at St. Paul University, Ottawa) wrote the following,
“My thesis is that the fear many in the Christian churches have of body, passion and love has, in fact, led them to misinterpret St. John’s view of love. They have made it something ethereal, “purely spiritual,” and therefore disembodied or disincarnated. In fact, though, for St. John such a love is passionate, bodily and incarnated. I believe that seeing him in this way will enable us in the twentieth century to break through to a much more authentic Christian spirituality and indeed, a much more truthful presentation of St. John of the Cross’s own teaching and hopes.
I. ONE WITH THE WILL OF GOD THE PERSON LIVES THE LIFE OF GOD
In the Prologue of his Living Flame of Love, John of the Cross expresses the basic motif flowing throughout his works:
For [God] declared that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit would take up their abode in those who loved him by making them live the life of God and dwell in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit [Jn 14:23], as the soul points out in these stanzas.1
St. John tell us that his poem speaks of the process whereby human beings come to live a new life, one that actually involves living the life of God, even within this earthly life. The interesting element here is the way this occurs. John speaks of the Trinity taking up its home in human beings by making them live the life of God here and now: seeing as God sees, loving as God loves, now in an incarnated way in the flesh and blood of those God transforms.”
(Quote taken from http://www.icspublications.org/archives/others/cs6_12.html)
Susanne you put into words my own feelings and desire, and I think this is the desire of God towards us too…
“From my own experience I can say that life in and with God is not something theoretical, it is neither about talk, nor about reading the Bible or other books, nor is it about fellowshipping with others, and it is not about church, either – all these things are secondary. It is primarily about becoming more and more ONE through divine love with Him who fills the whole universe with His Life.”
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Thanks so much for your gracious and encouraging comment, Deborah!
Love to you ❤
Susanne
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Susanne wrote, “God’s living flame which had just begun to burn exceedingly high in my heart in the year 2000… At that time I hoped that I had already finished my long way with God, that is, I thought I had reached the goal of perfect unity with Him. But, alas, it was only the beginning of a long, both blissful and painful way that led me closer and closer to Him. During the following years when I often thought that God would be silent and all the darkness inside me deeper than ever, He had been far closer than ever before… God’s indwelling of a human being is indeed a divine mystery.”
Amen! I remember praying in 1979, “Father, make me like your Son, that I would only do the works I see you doing and only speak the words I hear you saying.” I had enough time to think to myself, “Boy! That was sure a righteous prayer!” Then He answered back, “No my son, that is only the STARTING POINT!” Well, this is when He in answer to my prayer moved my goal post waaaayyyyy down the field and took me off the Foosball table I was on, spiritually speaking, onto a REAL spiritual socker field by comparison.
I soon found myself in total spiritual darkness, where I had thought that I was God’s rising start in Christendom (See Isaiah 50:11). NOT! After He held me in that state of darkness where my fleshly senses could no longer be titillated by His working through me for fourteen years in my own dark night of the soul, He finally brought me out, but this time it was different. My flesh no longer sought to surf on the Spirit’s wave. I just was glad to have my first love relationship with Jesus back again.
Anyway, I soon found out that He was cutting me off from knowing Him after the flesh… (the five senses that I had once depended on so much) and was fine tuning me to know His presence by His five spiritual senses. Where once darkness was my enemy, I could now see that HE abides in the deepest of darkness where my old sense of sight was totally worthless. Consider these two passages…
If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. Yea, the darkness hides not from you; but the night shines as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to you.
(Psalms 139:11-12 KJ2000)
All this time God’s angel had gone ahead of Israel’s army, but now he moved behind them. A large cloud had also gone ahead of them, but now it moved between the Egyptians and the Israelites. The cloud gave light to the Israelites, but made it dark for the Egyptians, and during the night they could not come any closer.
(Exodus 14:19-20 CEV)
Light and darkness are the same to Him! When we are being led out of our spiritual Egypt… a land where our god dwelt in niches and temples made by men… the Egypt side of our understanding only saw darkness, but the side facing HIS kingdom saw His marvelous light! In this sense, light and darkness are the same unto Him… they serve the same purpose to cut us off from our idolatry and turn us toward worshiping the Father in Spirit and in Truth! Isaiah understood this saying,
Behold, the Lord GOD helps me; who will declare me guilty? Behold, all of them will wear out like a garment; the moth will eat them up. Who among you fears the LORD and obeys the voice of his servant, who walks in darkness and has no light, yet trusts in the name of the LORD and relies upon his God?
(Isaiah 50:9-10 RSVA)
For those of us who have gone through the dark night of the soul, we have seen and have heard the accuser of the brethren even among our brethren as we feared the Lord even more than before because of the darkness we were in, but accusers did not survive and their fleshly works were eaten up. But in all of it we learned how to trust in and lean upon Him alone until our darkness became His Light!
If I say, “Let only darkness cover me, and the light about me be night,” even the darkness is not dark to thee, the night is bright as the day; for darkness is as light with thee. (Psalms 139:11-12 RSVA)
The whole time we were in that darkness we were actually under the shadow of His wings and were never closer! And when we thought He was silent (to our old way of hearing), He was teaching us subliminally so that our flesh could not rise up again with knowledge that puffs up.
Susanne! We have a wonderful promise that we are starting to see unfold even now…
I will go before you, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of bronze, and cut asunder the bars of iron: And I will give you the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that you may know that I, the LORD, who call you by your name, am the God of Israel.
(Isaiah 45:2-3 KJ2000)
Amen!!!
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Amen, Michael. So beautiful what you wrote on here and the Scriptures are dead-on! Also, thanks a bunch for the propitious promise in the end of your reply – makes my heart burn all the more, brother!! 🙂
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Based on what you said I think I am in the “Dark night of the soul” I get accused all the time of things.
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Have you read that post yet, Fred?
https://enteringthepromisedland.wordpress.com/2015/02/25/different-stages-of-spiritual-growth/
There is a rather short description of the different stages of the Dark Night of the Soul.
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Fred, we all get accused of things every day, be they true or false. That is no sign of anything. If you are in the “Dark night of the soul” you will not have to guess about it. You first have to experience the life of the Spirit in much power in your life before your soul can become puffed up by that power. It is then that God has to strip us of everything spiritual so that He can build once again on a foundation in us that is ONLY Christ’s death and resurrection in us.
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That was very well said and matches my own experience too, Michael!
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yes that comment–life with God is becoming more one through divine love with Him who fills us with His life–says it all–and that quote from Richard P Hardy is excellent.
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Thank you very much, Kenneth!!
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Very interesting. Thank you.
Love,
Pat Orr
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You’re welcome, Pat.
Much love ❤
Susanne
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I have such a long way to go. I do know this is what GOD wants. This goes along with what Jesus said about “I never Knew you”. He wants to know us and be one with us. I know some read that verse and only look at the part that says “inequity” So they try and live by the law and have tried to convince me to as well. I am still working on getting closer to GOD and not worry so much about the law.
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“I am still working on getting closer to GOD and not worry so much about the law.”
Fred, do not worry! HE will draw you ever closer to Himself and where the Spirit of Lord is, there is freedom (2 Cor 3:17).
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Thank you. I had some strange things happen this morning that I might need to pray about. For some reason I had forgotten a lot of things that i need for work. First the phone number for our Monday and Thursday Morning meeting and I also forgot the code to even get into the building. I think there were other things I forgot as well. I felt odd about it and not sure how to explain that. I might have been upset as well.
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You’re welcome, Fred. I have no explanation for your forgetfulness, but I know when I am upset, I tend to get confused and forgetful too.
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