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The following text is an excerpt from chapter 1 “God, Our True Life” of Gerhard Tersteegen’s book “The Quiet Life”. I hope you find it helpful in your quest of experiencing and receiving more from God.
We are conscious these days of a deep-seated hunger, a secret need in our heart’s core, to be set free from sin, from the world, and from self-centeredness, and so to be reunited with our source. We must only be in earnest about it. The power is close at hand. Just stay where you are and unite yourselves with God as with something there already, that you do not need to seek! For God is certainly with you and in you, although hidden by darkness. It is true that this Something to which your heart inclines is not known by you clearly; but this not-knowing is true knowing, and this undefined, better than a thousand definitions.
You don’t need to search for God; you have only to realize Him. The mind of God and the light of God do not come in from outside. They do not borrow their certainty and strength from our minds or our senses. They make themselves known in the heart’s core and have both energy and certainty in themselves, although these become darkened and disappear when the soul begins to search after clear certainty in her depths. So do not go out so much into reflections. Do not seek merely by reasoned, external methods to find sure foundations, but close your eyes like a child and confide yourself to the hidden Being who is so near to you inwardly.
O that I could pour out my whole heart in tears and weep for the blindness of men! They take their deceptive illusions and their trivial things for the essential, and the essential things of the spirit for imagination and error. Yet it has been told us aforetime that the natural man, in contrast to the spiritual, can perceive nothing of the things of the Spirit of God. What is visible is passing; the best in it comes and goes. We see, we admire, we bury ourselves in things which are not, and Him who is, we leave out of consideration.
All we children of Adam live in time; and we can neither comprehend nor criticize the eternal and infinite with our finite reason. We see God in parts, so to speak, now from this side, now from that, and what we cannot make into rhyme or reason, we try to isolate, and will not believe to be God. Then we fashion God after our own idea and draw our own consequences and conclusions; and anything which does not agree with them, we must, of course, contradict. And it is just in this way, in my opinion, that many ugly theories and errors have arisen among all sections of Christendom. Oh, what a difference when, after reason has carved an image of God, the Lord himself comes and impresses His glorious knowledge and His very self upon the soul!
I esteem no books to be more superfluous in the world than those which set out to prove that there is a God. Since so many millions of people have been in America, no books are needed to prove that there is a New World. The witness of grace in the heart and conscience is the best guarantee of truth, and anyone who keeps to this will never be led astray by any error. To self-activated reason this is a piece of foolishness. Where we stop doing and worrying, God begins, and He will be everything in our nothingness. God is all-sufficient in every way. He is able, He alone is able. He is perfectly able. He is able to satisfy and bless the incredibly great receptivity of our soul. May the Lord grant us living experience of this Being in our souls, even although we should at the same time forget all we know about it.
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Read more here http://www.worldwisdom.com/public/viewpdf/default.aspx?article-title=God_Our_True_Life_by_Gerhard_Tersteegen.pdf
In addition to this, I would like to clarify what Tersteegen might have meant right at the end of these lines when he said we should forget everything, every revelation of God, after we have experienced it.
Of course, we cannot say, “Okay, I am going to forget it now!!” Instead, our minds will be kept busy when God after many years or decades REALLY manifests Himself to us. Even here we need God’s help and spiritual intervention to make us “forget” encounters and experiences insofar as clinging to them would fix our minds and hearts somehow within time and space. However, the eternal God lives out of time and space. And if we want to “flow” with and in the One who encompasses everything, we need a God-given self-forgetfulness, a condition of heart and mind that is no longer occupied with the old and limited Adam or Eve, but solely focused on God, as it is written,
“For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.” (Mt 6:21-22 KJV)
Indeed, God wants to be our ONLY treasure. Usually He gives us in the first place earthly gifts and later spiritual gifts – blessings both, to be sure. Yet the greatest blessing for human beings is the Giver who gives Himself to them. Therefore God, again and again, withdraws His specific blessings from us so that we might seek HIM all the more.
All I can say, dear sister, is WOW!!! You have encapsulated a truth that God has been growing me up into for the last 44 years!!!
You and I have been writing on our respective blogs how our Father makes ALL things NEW, but here you have taken this truth to the next level. We are being taken from glory to glory!!!! God gives us the most wonderful bit of revelation by His Spirit about Himself and the nature of His kingdom and we are soooo delighted and revel in it! But what do we want to do? We want to camp right here! Like the beer advertisement of a few years ago we say, “Man, it don’t get no better than this!” That is what Peter did on the “Mount of Transfiguration.” Jesus was transformed into His glorified body before their eyes as He fellowshiped with Moses and Elijah (that by itself blew his mind!). But Peter pipes up and in effect says, “Lord, it is good that we are here! Let’s seize this moment! Let us build THREE tabernacles to house it in! One for each of you!” To this mentality God’s answer is always the same, “This is my Beloved Son! Hear ye Him!” You see, God’s revelation is ongoing and it has always been about JESUS pointing to a greater revelation of who HE is, not the law and the prophet (as if they were an end unto themselves for they also pointed to HIM)!
IN Christ we are taken from glory TO glory as we are also taken from death to death. Death works in us daily as we take up our cross and follow Him. BUT greater resurrection Life also is coming forth from us day by day as well. So, we are being taken from one glorious revelation of who God is to the next one and the next one! You see, “of the increase of HIS government THERE WILL BE NO END (see Isaiah 9:6-7)!”
Again, my wonderful sister in Christ, I thank you and thank Him for breaking you open through hardships you have endured to let the light of His glorious Son shine forth that way He does. Amen!
“,,,but when a man turns to the Lord the veil is removed. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being changed into his likeness from one degree of glory to another; for this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.”
(2 Corinthians 3:16-18 RSVA)
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What a passionate and enhusiastic reply, my brother!! 🙂
I am stunned to hear that this blog was able to somehow sum up your past walk with the Lord! Actually, I felt anything but inspired this evening, rather, nauseated and extremely tired. But between cooking dinner and some other chores I felt nudged to sit down, copy and paste Tersteegen’s advice on seeking God, and added a few, hopefully explanatory, notes.
And yes, Michael – you are so right! The transfiguration example fits like a glove; Peter was looking back to that revelation instead of BEHOLDING HIM!
The hardships in my life were worth it, indeed. Despite ongoing trials and affliction, the glory revealed is getting greater every day, too. Our God is sooooo wonderful!!! ❤ ❤ ❤
Thanks a bunch for edifying me that much, dear brother!!
Love,
Susanne
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My dear Susanne,
YES!!! It is when we are weak that Christ is made perfect (perfectly manifest) in us. Thanks for obeying His voice even in your weakness!
There are so many ways to get side-tracked from our upward call which is to KEEP SEEKING AND KEEP GROWING in Christ! Oh how we want to grab the gold ring and keep it for ourselves (there was a merry-go-round when I was a kid that had a dispenser that put out 2″ diameter metal rings and you could grab one at a time each time you went past this one point. If you managed to get a GOLD colored ring you got to turn it in and get a free ride). BUT the gold ring was only good if you turned it in and continued riding. Hosea put it this way,
Then shall we know, [if] we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter [and] former rain unto the earth.” (Hosea 6:3 KJV)
WHAT A PROMISE if we will just keep seeking HIM and not miss the BEST by settling for the good. The worst enemy of God’s BEST is not what is evil, but what is “good.” Evil in time is revealed for what it is, but how often we settle for a good thing and stop seeking Him thinking we have got all there is. This is the nature of religion in a nutshell. But God has called us into a dynamic ever changing relationship… an ever upward call.
“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne… After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things…”
(Revelation 3:20 to 4:1 KJV)
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My dear Michael,
Indeed, a both cute and meaningful example from your childhood you brought up on here. Very helpful and elucidating!
Settling for the BEST instead of settling for the good that already lies behind us in our past life would be seeking HIM who actually IS the Kingdom of God (the King of Kings). Or in other words,
“Jesus said to him, “No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God.”” (Lk 6:62 ESV)
The last Scripture you posted, my brother, is filled with hidden meaning. A really mystical verse is the following in particular, “I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” The ESV says, “eat with him…” It is the same hidden meaning in those verses which, after Jesus had spoken them was left by many of His disciples. They didn’t get it at all. Here’s the scripture.
“For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.” (Jn 6:55-56 ESV)
To clarify what He really meant here Jesus even added,
“It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe.” (Jn 6:63-64 ESV)
Alas, the carnal mind cannot comprehend these truths. We urgently need His Holy Spirit to guide us into the inner sight of all Scriptures which are fulfilled in Christ alone.
Thank you for another great comment, Michael. Much appreciated!
Love in Him ❤
Susanne
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Susanne- in what you said ( “forget” encounters and experiences insofar as clinging to them would fix our minds and hearts somehow within time and space. However, the eternal God lives out of time and space. And if we want to “flow” with and in the One who encompasses everything, we need a God-given self-forgetfulness) I believe incorporating ( by grace ) the revelations of God within our being and moving on in the new life we have and not stopping there, like the denominations and some of the people in them have in receiving a revelation of God an building a man made system around it and stopping. our adam nature ( self ) likes to take the revelations of God and build a system ,method or doctrine around it so we can control God.Psalm 78:41 Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.i know when i left the system God told me He wanted an open handed policy with me that He was going to show me many new things about Himself and for me not to grab hold of anything He showed me, and get stuck , but to let it go so He could show me more ,and the more i see the more i am changed into His image. God will spend the rest of eternity revealing Himself anew to us.let us not settle for anything less than all He wants to show us of Himself ~ Thanks for sharing ~ wayne
funny story – i wrote this and stopped for dinner and the dishes before posting. no one had commented yet but now i read all the comments. at least i am moving in the same Spirit ill be the 2nd witness 🙂
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Hello second witness, uh…Wayne! 😉
Thanks a lot for confirmation and for sharing your own experience with the Lord as to ongoing revelations. I particularly like the truth of what you said here,
“God will spend the rest of eternity revealing Himself anew to us.”
In fact, even if I tried to count all the different “types” of peace I was allowed to experience since I have come to know God, I would say there must be way more than thousand. To say nothing of God’s love. Considering that Paul Simon knew “50 ways to leave your lover”, our Eternal Lover knows countless ways to touch and satisfy our souls in infinite dimensions, not only in those we know from our body experiences.
Actually, life with God is an adventure, never boring, always new, and endless, too.
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Susanne- like what you said . i heard it like this walking with God is thrills , romance and aventure
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Yup, Wayne! 🙂
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Wayne and Susanne… YESSSSSS!!!! What an adventure we are on as we obey His upward call and get out from behind the closed doors of the Laodicean systems of men! “Come up here and I will show you things…” I don’t regret one moment of it since I left. Jesus said, “I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.” FREEDOM!!!
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Yes, Michael, the sheep find pasture in the Spirit where they can meet their Shepherd who feeds them with “things” they could have never dreamed in their earthly life before.
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I agree, Susanne. I had this pastor that had a dream that he was in this fenced area with these sheep that had the faces of people in HIS congregation. The problem was that all that was left for the sheep to eat was sticks and rocks. Well, one of them was chewing on a stick and look up at him and said, “This is really good food, Kevin! Thanks!” As it turned out he never learned from the dream and finally God took him out of the pastorate.
What I got out of John ten was that Jesus IS THE GOOD SHEPHERD and that HIS sheep hear HIS voice and follow HIM, not hirelings. They also know HIS voice and not the voices of thieves and robbers and they follow HIS voice! And that by Jesus they can both come IN and GO OUT of the sheepfold to find their pasture and are NOT cooped up in an area that was never designed to be a feeding ground in the first place, but rather a place to sleep at night under His protection. Thus they have FREEDOM to function like sheep are supposed to function not like slaves or prisoners bound up in some man made institution with no mind of their own. Yes, it is for freedom that Christ has set us free.. free to follow Him and HIS voice as HE leads.
Bless you my sister!
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Dear Michael,
Following His voice alone – first of all – that is the point, indeed. No human being or anything else may come in between our Lord and us. But we may also know that our faith regarding THIS will be tested. I am currently in such a situation, therefore I know what I am speaking of here.
God bless you, too, my brother.
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Yes, Susanne, I know this test as well. I have many times in my life found another human being that seemed to be everything I wanted, so much so that I got my eyes on them and off the Lord. He might wink at this for a season, but the time comes when He knows that this is not for our best and He reigns us back in to Himself. Sometimes He even lets that “perfect person” fall on his face before us as God did with that idol Dagon in his temple when the Philistines captured the ark and put it in there with their god. He will have no strange gods before Him… not even someone we love. Oh, the pain these lessons can cause, but in the end we all win because HE loves us and knows what is our best.
God bless and keep you always, my sister
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Thank you, Michael.
My problem is not so much that I would give up God for anything or anyone in this world. Thank God, His love – although I do not feel that much of it at the moment – has somehow already empowered me to endure whatever He has in store for me. My problem, in fact, is rather whether I clearly follow His lead instead of making some false compromise in order to not snub those whom I love and to whom I feel obliged to behave in a certain way to which they were accustomed beforehand.
Actually, seems to be another one of those countless chapters of dying to self. 😉
God bless you and keep you, too, my brother in Him.
Love,
Susanne
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I am challenged as I read this blog. I seek to become single-minded to the Kingdom of God. I am not there. Thank each of you for the testimony and truth that you share.
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You’re so welcome, Pat. ❤
None of us can become single-minded without God drawing him or her with His magnetic love unto Himself. I feel that God is way closer to your heart as you might have realized it so far because He pours so much grace out on us through your words. Indeed, I highly appreciate your encouraging and wise input, dear sister! 🙂
Much love,
Susanne
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Michael and Pat – Philippians 3:13-14
Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. ~ wayne
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Well said, Wayne!
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Oh, thanks sooo much for commenting on here, dear Jacqui! ❤
You made my Sunday, indeed! 🙂
God bless…Susanne XX
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So glad to hear that!! 🙂
I love you,
Susanne
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