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Let me begin with an analogy we all know. Imagine you see a small child that has not been fed properly by his parents. Instead, he was badly nourished and therefore grows slowly, even much slower than his peers. Maybe, his parents are extremely poor and cannot feed this child as they should. If this small child gets no help from others, sooner or later the first sicknesses will befall him and most probably, he won’t get that old, either. What is so sad to observe in the physical realm exists in the spiritual realm, too. Nonetheless, the difference is that it is easier to feed a malnourished child than a malnourished spirit being for we can see it immediately when a child is too lean, too pale, and very weak. But how can we discern a believer who has fed on the wrong spirits? Can we see the deception they have fallen prey to as well? 🙄
In order to come closer to an evident resolve that might help us protect our own spirits from being deceived, let us focus on the spiritual realm now. If we think we can discern deceived believers by our intellect alone or by what we feel when we are confronted with them, we might be deluded since we usually react according to our likes and dislikes, to our projections and prejudice. From hence, we might easily be wrong in our judgment of the one who is a real believer and the one who runs after false spirits, thinking it is the Lord Jesus Christ he follows. However, if we want to know whether someone is the Lord’s or not, we could try to listen to them for a while or delve into their writings.
If we are attentive, we will find out that someone who gave God and Christ the first place in their life, they will quite often point to God and His goodness while they will never dwell on their own goodness (which does not exist anyway) or on what wonderful works God did through them. Instead, if God’s children really do good works, they will hardly mention them because they always forget about them immediately. Actually, when God can work through Christians as HE wants, these people automatically recognize God’s hand in their doing and thus they will never take credit for that which belongs to God alone. Jesus warned us about these things as He said,
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.” (Mt 6:1-4 ESV)
If you happen to meet such believers who act in and through their old self nature, thinking it is God’s will that they do what they do, you will quickly find out that they need man’s approval as a reward for their (good) works for God. Sooner or later, their self wants to be stroked and clapped on the back. And if nobody does this for them, they give themselves a pat. Alas, we are so used to this kind of worldly mindset that we hardly realize that there should be a big difference between a Christian and a worldly person regarding these matters.
Dear reader, we should know that boasting and immodesty is not Christlike. Furthermore, gossip and bashing is not Christlike, either. But speaking the truth in love IS! However, we should be aware of the fact that the truth sometimes hurts immensely when we hear it through a fellow Christian! It hurts even more the deeper the darkness of deception was we have found ourselves in. But should we therefore try to avoid telling others what is true and what is false? God forbid!!! If our loving Lord leads us to tell others, most kindly, about the deceiving spirits we have seen in their speaking or writing, we must prepare ourselves for their reaction. They might be mad at us and accuse us wrongly because their old nature feels offended UNLESS… God has opened their hearts and they can receive the truth with a humble spirit.
In fact, how many people were offended with Jesus as HE told them the truth about their hearts? I am sure our Lord was never loved because of His honesty by those who wanted to keep acting independently from God’s guidance. The people, instead, followed their emotions, positively as Jesus worked healing miracles and fed them when they were hungry or they reacted negatively as they finally wanted to see Him crucified and dead. You see, there was no spiritual growth in these people although they had seen so many miracles before. Indeed, it is never that which can be perceived with our natural five senses that makes our faith grow. T. Austin Sparks said it so well,
“We do not grow by teaching and information, by being filled up with the Bible and its doctrines and its truths, however wonderful and true and great they are. We only grow by love, and we grow by love in terms of spiritual discernment. “Love buildeth up” (1 Cor. 8:1); but love buildeth up because love gives us spiritual insight, and the simplest child of God, who has never been brought up in profound things, in the midst of a great wealth of teaching, but who loves the Lord, will make far greater strides in spiritual growth than those who have it all mentally and intellectually and not through the eyes of the heart. It is true. If there is an adequate love there will be no compromise with error, with wrong, no permitting of questionable things, no long-drawn-out shedding of things which, while they may not be altogether wrong, would be better not there.” (1)
I decided to repeat what TAS said above,
If there is an adequate love, there will be no compromise with error, with wrong, no permitting of questionable things.
That might sound overstated if we think we need to love others by being nice toward them whatever they teach and preach. But Sparks refers to our love for the Lord here, not to our human emotions that can be pretty moody. It is only this love of and for the Lord that enables us to obey God’s voice that helps us to discern between right and wrong, between true and false, between praiseworthy and detestable. Our relationship with God must come first – always! Jesus Christ should be our first love, even if we cannot perceive good feelings in our heart when we suffer according to His will. As I said before in another article, agape love is primarily obedience to His voice, not to our good or bad feelings. Whenever we try to do God’s work by loving other people with our natural resources and confuse our good feelings with the love of God because we like these people, we are deceived, since the love of God demands perfection which means we ought to love our enemies, too.
Do not let us be misled here, dear brothers and sisters. We cannot have fellowship with one another UNLESS you and I have been connected to the Head first. From Him alone comes The Life and The Breath that quickens the Body of Christ. In fact, without obeying the Head, a believer is not connected to the Body and cannot be fruitful at all “[a]s the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me.” Jesus went on to say, ”I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in me, he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned.” (Jn 15:4-6 ESV) T. Austin Sparks confirmed the necessity of the preeminence Christ ought to have in our lives. He wrote,
“Relativity is the law of the Body of Christ. Relativity is holding fast the Head; and let us beware of trying to maintain the Body in its oneness along the horizontal line. You cannot do it. It is a hopeless thing, and we shall always be running round and making apologies. On the horizontal we cannot do it, but if we hold fast the Head, we shall find our gravitation is together. We cannot give Christ His place fully and absolutely and be at cross-purposes with another believer. Christ must have His place so that we do everything unto Him, all for Him, all for His sake. We cannot have an attitude like that and maintain a grievance with another believer. Holding fast the Head and everything being unto Him would demand an adjustment in our relationships and bring it about. We cannot love the Lord with all our hearts and not love one of His; that is a contradiction. So that the oneness of the Body first of all demands that we hold fast the Head.” (2)
Dear reader, if you happen to have fellowship with someone who does not hold fast to the Head, or when you are insecure if that is the case, ask the Lord about it. I am sure He will tell you the truth and help you break off contact with such people who, knowingly or unknowingly, have already done damage to your spirit and soul. I can tell you that it is VERY dangerous to fellowship with someone who is driven by the wrong spirits! You cannot be but affected by them and might even feel forced to submit to these invisible spirits who more and more will pull you away from God and Jesus Christ as the center of your life. If someone wants to dig deeper into the dangers of false fellowship and read more about this topic, here is the link to an older article of mine:
(1) http://www.austin-sparks.net/english/books/001273.html
(2) http://www.austin-sparks.net/english/books/000755.html
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Michael said:
Susanne you wrote,
Jesus pointed out this kind of hypocrisy in the “works of mercy” of the Pharisees saying,
You also wrote,
Jesus warned that there are many false Christs [anointings] in these times (Matt. 24:24), preaching a distortion of the gospel of Christ saying, “The gospel means ‘good news’ and that is all we should ever say and portray to people.” There are those who also try to draw people to themselves by preaching and walking in a false love. They point to Jesus and how “He just loved everybody and was always comforting them.” Anyone who has read the gospels at all and desires to walk in the Truth of Christ would know this to be a distortion immediately! Yes, Jesus loved all men, but sometimes His adherence to the Truth that is in the Father made that love cut into their fleshly hearts like a knife to do surgery where it was needed. Jesus loved Peter, but when the devil spoke through him trying to get Jesus to avoid the cross that the Father set before Him, He said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man.” You see, we can be so focused on “the things of men” in our fleshly false love for them that we can end up being a mouthpiece of Satan.
We also can be deluded on just how much we love Jesus. Peter was boasting that HE wold never betray Him. Yet He said to Peter who Satan was sifting like wheat, “Truly, I tell you, this very night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.” Fleshly manifestations of love might fool some people, but they never fool God. If we are not walking in His truth with purified hearts, we are not walking In His love, either. After Satan has sifted Peter like wheat he was able to write in truth,
First we are called purify our souls by obeying the truth through the Spirit and then our love for one another will be pure. John wrote,
Our relationships with the saints of God must be both in truth and in love. If a person has not let the Spirit of Truth crucify their flesh, they will never have a sincere love of the brethren because their own self-love will motivate everything they do. Pure love can only come from a purified heart. When Christians are believing a lie from Satan and not walking in the Spirit of Truth, they can also walk in a false love that is more about elevating themselves by sucking people into that false love. There is no love of God without His truth abiding in us and without that we can never speak the truth in love. Yes, Susanne, if we listen to a person or read their writings and what they boast in, we will soon find out if the Spirit of Truth is speaking through them no matter how much they say they love God and others.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Excellent exposition, Michael. A blog post in itself, indeed! ⭐
You wrote,
“There is no love of God without His truth abiding in us and without that we can never speak the truth in love.”
I love this! If someone preaches a false gospel, as ‘ear-itching’ it might sound, they cannot live in the truth nor preach the truth, either, because the truth is… The Truth is… A PERSON! (The predecing repetition was no typo, but intended for emphasis) If we do not know Him intimately, The Truth does not yet abide in us nor have we received His anointing which leads us into all the truth. The real Baptism in the Holy Spirit is needed here, not the Pentecostal distortion that is focused on speaking in tongues and on having spiritual gifts of all kinds.
This Scripture you pasted from Peter’s first letter is so appropriate as it shows that our heart must have been purified through this painful suffering process of enduring the cross that kills our old nature before we can really love like God loves.
Thanks so much for your thought-provoking comment, my dear brother! 🙂
Love in Him, ❤
Susanne
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Michael said:
You are welcome, my dear sister. Yes, 1 Pet. 1:22 really nailed it as to how important it is to be walking in the Truth of Christ if we are to love one another with His love. It reminds me of what John wrote, “If we walk in the light as He is in the light, we will have fellowship with one another…”
Your brother,
Michael
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Yes, so true, Michael, walking in the light is crucial for real fellowship! The last verse you quoted reminded me of another Scripture that admonishes us to
“[…] not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.” (2 Cor 6:14-18 ESV)
Also, if someone claims to be in the light although they walk in darkness, can we wholeheartedly call them ‘believers’ then? 🙄 It seems to me we don’t DO fellowship. Your Scripture tells us that walking in the light, which is prerequisite for two or more believers, automatically leads to fellowship with one another. Interesting… I just saw this for the very first time. True fellowhip comes from God! We cannot make it or fake it at all. Although I knew that before, there is more depth in this which just began to dawn on me now… 😉
Your sister,
Susanne
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
It seems the revelation goes on, my dear brother. 😉
If someone claims to know God as their Father and Christ as their Lord, yet they walk in darkness, whether they know it or not, they most probably follow ‘another Jesus’ as Scripture confirms.
“Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
I presume they do not know they walk in darkness nor that they have been deceived. In order to really see one’s own miserable condition we need Christ’s eyesalve that opens the eyes of our hearts. It must come as a shock when someone hears the following words of the risen Christ as we read in the Book of Revelation:
“So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’” (Rev 3:16-22 ESV)
I recall how I was trembling with the fear of God, back then in 2008, as I read these verses with which God told me what would lie ahead of me (this extremely long and painful purification and enlightening process). I really saw how lukewarm I had been in the past, so shallow as I always relied on my old nature’s feelings and on what I thought was the real ME. Ugh!! Even in hindsight, I could puke! Although it has been very painful, I am glad God opened my eyes in order to see the truth as He sees it: HE IS THE TRUTH! And only in Him the real ME/YOU/US, which is/are eternal, can be found.
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Fred said:
How does one know if they are walking in the light?
Oh and almost every day I feel lukewarm.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Good question, Fred. I have thought about that for a few hours, but have found no solution as yet. The only thing that came to mind immediately as I had seen your comment was that I recalled that Michael and I wrote a joint blog article about this. Although I think it was more about fellowship in the light. Just rereading that post before linking it on here for you…….. Hmm, isn’t it strange that I always forget what I once wrote? Only if God reminds me I can, at least, remember the title. 😉 I guess it might help some. Here is the link, Fred.
Perhaps, Michael’s reply here could be helpful as well?
As a more general response to your question, my brother, I believe we do not know it when we walk in darkness. If so, we would turn to the light immediately. But here is the problem. His light that wants to chase away all darkness in our hearts is painful to endure. It is the cross that kills the old nature. Do I know it when I walk in the light? I think I do because as long as I try to hide something inside me before God and/or others with whom I fellowship, I feel a certain uneasiness until it has been exposed to the light. Then relief and peace set in. Darkness also causes confusion about what is right and what is wrong, as Michael told me today. Basically, it is much easier to sense the darkness in which others walk than one’s own UNLESS we are used to presenting our heart and its miserable (sorrowful, fearful, doubtful) condition to God every day.
The way I see it, Fred, I believe that you have really been searching for God and His will in your life. Therefore I think He will give you as much light as you need to go on and to grow more and more into His image.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Another thing I just found out, Fred.
My today’s devotional (March 16) by Oswald Chambers (OC) also deals with the question of how to walk in the light. Here is the whole thing. You know that OC sometimes wrote/preached pretty rigorously. So, I do hope you do not feel condemned by something he said here.
We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ… —2 Corinthians 5:10
“Paul says that we must all, preachers and other people alike, “appear before the judgment seat of Christ.” But if you will learn here and now to live under the scrutiny of Christ’s pure light, your final judgment will bring you only delight in seeing the work God has done in you. Live constantly reminding yourself of the judgment seat of Christ, and walk in the knowledge of the holiness He has given you. Tolerating a wrong attitude toward another person causes you to follow the spirit of the devil, no matter how saintly you are. One carnal judgment of another person only serves the purposes of hell in you. Bring it immediately into the light and confess, “Oh, Lord, I have been guilty there.” If you don’t, your heart will become hardened through and through. One of the penalties of sin is our acceptance of it. It is not only God who punishes for sin, but sin establishes itself in the sinner and takes its toll. No struggling or praying will enable you to stop doing certain things, and the penalty of sin is that you gradually get used to it, until you finally come to the place where you no longer even realize that it is sin. No power, except the power that comes from being filled with the Holy Spirit, can change or prevent the inherent consequences of sin.
“If we walk in the light as He is in the light…” (1 John 1:7). For many of us, walking in the light means walking according to the standard we have set up for another person. The deadliest attitude of the Pharisees that we exhibit today is not hypocrisy but that which comes from unconsciously living a lie.”
https://utmost.org/the-master-will-judge/
What I particularly like here is that OC mentioned, like you yesterday, that we could not do anything apart from God as he said,
“No power, except the power that comes from being filled with the Holy Spirit, can change or prevent the inherent consequences of sin.”
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Fred, this is REALLY strange! 🙄 I just read TAS’ devotional from (my) today (March 16) and it fits in with OC’s. 😉 Here you are.
March 16
Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. (Colossians 3:9,10 NIV)
Christ Himself, when He was here, never failed to let people know that when they entered that door, or that straight and narrow way, they were in for trouble. Now that may sound like a very terrible thing to say, especially to you young Christians who are not far inside the door, but be perfectly clear about it; the Lord Jesus never deceived anybody about this, never at all. He let people know that to “follow Him,” as He put it at that time, involved them in difficulty and suffering and persecution and trial and a lifelong thing. There is a cost here, a great cost. And we shall discover that while there are the compensations, for there are undoubtedly the compensations in this life and the mighty compensations for eternity, this is a way which is not easy for the natural man by any means. This work of the Holy Spirit is drastic, exacting, and very trying to the flesh. Make no mistake about it; it will take all the energy that the Holy Spirit Himself has to accomplish this work. It really will. So the Lord Jesus has not left us in any doubt about this.
But note, and I am glad the Apostle Paul puts it like this, because it is so true to experience, “The new man who is being renewed.” Notice, first there was a precise and definite transaction, “Ye put off” and “ye put on,” but now the work that is going on is not a single act of a single moment and a single day, but it is something that is going on in us.
http://www.austin-sparks.net/english/openwindows/003096.html
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Michael said:
Very good observation about how fellowship happens, dear Susanne. “IF we are walking in the Light as HE is in the Light, we have fellowship one with another.” It is HIS Light in each of us that makes us draw together IN Christ. All we can do is rest in Him and let His truth permeate our souls by the intensity of His light and repent of any darkness He exposes in us. John wrote,
His light must shine into the darkness of our hearts by His life working in us. His miraculous light that separated the darkness from the light in the first day of creation must happen in the first day of our recreation IN Christ or we will never move on to have fellowship with one another or with Christ, for “what fellowship has light with darkness?” Jesus said,
We must believe INTO Christ not just “upon” Him as so many of these poor translations infer. His light becomes our light as we are immersed INTO Him. All too many people have a sprinkling of Christ in their lives only wanting Him to heap His power and blessings upon them without embracing His cross, while they maintain all authority and control. God does not share His glory with flesh. As Paul wrote that there is, “one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, WHO IS OVER ALL AND THROUGH ALL AND IN ALL.” (Eph 4:5-6, ESV2011).
The uncrucified man of flesh prefers darkness rather than light because his deeds are evil. Only as we embrace the cross and His Light in our lives will HE become over all that we are and IN ALL that He does through us. Until then there will be no fellowship together in His Light.
May He continue to shine His light into our hearts and ferret out any darkness that might remain in us. Like you said, dear heart, “Although it has been very painful, I am glad God opened my eyes in order to see the truth as He sees it: HE IS THE TRUTH! And only in Him the real ME/YOU/US, which is/are eternal, can be found.” Yes, Susanne, THIS is where real fellowship in the depths of His Spirit will be found.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Amen to all you said, Michael. Thanks so much for this enlightening comment, my dear brother! 🙂
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Fred said:
I skimmed this earlier and found it encouraging. Mainly because I at times feel like one of the worst Christians ever as I keep making mistakes or messing up. I find my self asking my self what is wrong with me a lot.
His goodness while they will never dwell on their own goodness (which does not exist anyway)
That quote from your message is what gave me hope and encouragement.
Although I think I have been told I need to stop dwelling on my mistakes. I am really trying not to but it is hard.
Oh also a friend recently posted something like what you said. At least I think it is kind of like what you have said here. He was using this passage.
John 15:5
King James 2000 Bible
I am the vine, you are the branches: He that abides in me, and I in him, the same brings forth much fruit: for without me you can do nothing.[/quote]
His message was mainly directed toward preachers. I found his post and yes this was on facebook. I could not stay away even after blocking it for a while. It was helpful to be away from it for a while though. Any way here is his post
FROM A BROTHER, A WORD OF REMINDER
DO PEOPLE SEE THE CHRIST?
OR YOU?
.,…..
“Whenever I do NOT see someone leading another to the One that said, “Without Me you can do nothing”
I switch OFF from your ministry
which may carry some words of Truth to an extent but it leads people to SELF AND NOT THE TRUTH HIMSELF!
Do you get it Mr. FACEBOOK PREACHER! I am so tired of reading your posts telling the Children to perform perform deliver, be this, be that,
and you don’t minister one verse that places focus on His Role to save, to heal, to deliver, to make possible, to sanctify. Maybe you see A Christ that hanged on the Cross challenging others to be like Him before He will save them but Truth be told only He can be Jesus within us and through us and that is why He said, “Without Me you can do NOTHING”
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Such a short quote by me gave you comfort and hope, Fred. That is amazing! 🙂
When we try to not do what we are used to do, dwelling on our mistakes in your case, it is as if someone tells us to not think of a blue elephant right now. What is the immediate picture in your mind when you hear this? 😉 The problem is that we cannot kill the old nature with our old nature. This is a vicious circle that keeps us busily trying everything, but achieving nothing. Without Him we can do NOTHING!! This is so true! We cannot change our thought life on our own. Tried that, failed always. It is the new creation that must be born from above which does not feel any condemnation any longer (see Rom 8:1). May God help us!
PS
Oh yes, I recall there were many (self-appointed) preachers on Facebook, fighting against those who were still in the churches with similar (soulish) means those in churches once used against them as well.
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