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A misty morning, sitting at the hairdresser. Looking out the window, I see people hurrying to and fro around the main station area in Fürth. As I had asked the Lord whether I should begin to write a new blog article here or not, He answered, “If you like.” I responded, “Only if YOU like!” since I have had no clue, until now, what to write about. 🤔
However, that’s IT, indeed! 😊 I do not want to write about the BIG things God might be inclined to do through us because that would not be the truth. How many Christians still tend to believe that God’s main interests were in revival, in teaching proper doctrine, in healing the sick and helping the needy, or in evangelism aka preaching the gospel to save the lost? “Hey, wait a moment…” I hear someone say, “The Bible tells us that some of these things you mentioned will follow those who believe.” Yeah, that is right. But do we really believe just as Jesus believed His Father? Do we think that our Lord cared and worried about these issues as we do today? Or did He not, rather, care about what His tender loving Daddy in heaven had on His mind at any given moment?
Sooo… what is on His mind right now? I don’t know, and you don’t, either, unless He gives one of us, or both, or three or more of us something to share. Divine inspiration is a gift that comes down from heaven whenever God wants to reveal something, either to encourage or to warn against spiritual dangers which are so common today. Nowadays, it might be more necessary to share exhortations than any other kind of writing. Although, reflecting briefly on the way the apostle Paul wrote his letters, I wonder how often he would pamper his readers. Didn’t he frequently rather admonish carnal-minded Christians to NOT listen to false spirits that presented themselves as pleasing to their flesh? Whenever Paul did so, he fulfilled the prophetic function which was a personal thing in the Old Testament. A prophet was someone who would be called by God to be His mouthpiece for lifetime, which meant often until he was killed for having obeyed the Lord, since God’s chosen people rarely (or even never?) wanted to hear what God had to say. Today God might use anyone to speak prophetic words to the Church, to the Bride of Christ. However, He will not use someone who keeps living after the flesh, still. Instead, God takes us through a severe purifying process where our spirit (fed by God) and our soul (fed by our flesh) are separated completely. Let me insert a warning here.
Beware of Christians who do not know the cross of Christ in their life personally!
Beware of Christians who think that suffering would be over since Gethsemane!
Beware of Christians who confuse their bouncing soulish emotions with the heart of God!
Beware of Christians who begin to work for God without knowing Him on a very personal level!
‘Beware’ here means we should be careful to not heed what such people have to say about God. These people I have been thinking of are not necessarily strangers, preachers on TV, or evangelists on the radio. It can also happen that close friends, or even spouses represent those to whom we should only cautiously listen, weighing every word by asking God about the proper discernment. If we allow them, i.e. these people, to influence our thinking anyway, we need to suffer the consequences that consist of both confusion and a progressive drowning out of the voice of the Holy Spirit in our life. If you want to dig deeper into this issue, I offer you a link to an older article of mine where I expounded with Michael Clark’s scriptural support on why NOT to allow demons to speak, at all. You can read the blog here if you like. Today I would even say that we should be careful about what to think and mull over. Sudden worries and unreasonable fears that attack us out of the blue usually spring from the dark spiritual realm in order to weaken our trust in God’s providence for our life.
Furthermore, I submit a whole (but not so long) article by T. Austin Sparks where he described the features of someone who is used by God as a prophet and the problems one must face in such a case. To be honest, no human being would choose the prophetic function on their own since regarding earthly standards, it is anything but fun. But there is always a spiritual reward for obeying God to do HIS will. It is His peace that follows our obedience immediately. Peace that does not care about circumstances at all as we, most evidently, can see as we look at Stephen who was stoned by those who thought they were doing God a favor. Did he care for his body or severe pains as he was at the same time enabled to see the Living God and Jesus Christ right before him in heaven? I guess no…
Since TAS article below refers to a Scripture that mentions a BURDEN to be a seer of divine revelations, here are the verses to which reference was made.
“The burden of the valley of vision. What aileth thee now, that thou art wholly gone up to the housetops?” (Is 22:1 KJV)
“The Burden of the Valley of Vision”
by T. Austin-Sparks (May, 1945) or another contributor to the magazine
Reading: Isaiah 22:1
The word “burden” here just does mean a load or weight, as much as a man can carry. Thus the Prophets felt what the Lord had shown them to be something that weighed heavily upon them and often overwhelmed them.
The prophetic function is brought into operation at a time when things are not well with the people and work of God, when declension has set in; when things have lost their distinctive Divine character; when there is a falling short or an accretion of features which were never intended by God. The Prophet in principle is one who represents – in himself and his vision – God’s reaction to either a dangerous tendency or a positive deviation. He stands on God’s full ground and the trend breaks on him. That which constitutes this prophetic function is spiritual perception, discernment, and insight. The Prophet sees, and he sees what others are not seeing. It is vision, and this vision is not just of an enterprise, a “work”, a venture; it is a state, a condition. It is not for the work as such that he is concerned, but for the spiritual state that dishonors and grieves the Lord.
This faculty of spiritual discernment makes the Prophet a very lonely man, and brings upon him all the charges of being singular, extreme, idealistic, unbalanced, spiritually proud, and even schismatic. He makes many enemies for himself. Sometimes he is not vindicated until after he has left the earthly scene of his testimony. Nevertheless, the Prophet is the instrument of keeping the Lord’s full thought alive, and of maintaining vision without which the people are doomed to disintegration.
While it has so often been an individual with whom the Lord has deposited His fuller thought and made His prophetic vessel, it has also very frequently been a company of His people in which He has been more utterly represented. Such companies are seen scattered down the ages. They were the Lord’s reactionary vessels. Such, surely, are the “Overcomers” of every “end-time”. The mass of Christians may be too taken up with the externals and accepted ways of Christianity; too spiritually satisfied with the lesser; too bound by tradition and fettered by the established order. The Lord cannot do His full thing with them because He does not put His new wine into old wineskins; the skins would burst and the life be wasted – not conserved to definite purpose. He finds Himself limited by an order which – while it may have been right at a certain time and for a certain period to carry His testimony up to a certain point – yet now remains as the fixed bound, and for want of an essential adjustableness His fuller purposes are impossible of realization. So it was with Judaism, so it has become with Christianity, and so it is with many an instrumentality which has been greatly used by Him. There is no finality with us here, and it is dangerous to the Lord’s interest to conclude that, because the Lord led and gave a pattern at a certain time, that was full and final and must remain. Every bit of new revelation will call for adjustment, but revelation waits for such a sense of need as to – at least – make for willingness to adjust.
The Lord needs that which really does represent His fullest possible thought, and not those who are just doing a good work. But it costs; and this is the “burden of the valley of vision”.
http://www.austin-sparks.net/english/000493.html
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Judi said:
Hello Susanne!
Just checking in and so appreciate this wonderful post!
I have been quite “dull” of late. Season changes here in Maryland USA are difficult for me – esp as I get older lol.
Too hot…Too cold…Ahhhh – just right LOL – which reminded me of the story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears. Of course faith and fairy tales do not match yet sometimes the tale can point out our carnality and entitlement issues.
http://www.dltk-teach.com/rhymes/goldilocks_story.htm
QUOTE: ” Instead, God takes us through a severe purifying process where our spirit (fed by God) and our soul (fed by our flesh) are separated completely.”
OR could I say – until the porridge (etc) is perfect no matter the temperature? 😉
I add a prayer shared by a minister I trust:
“Lord, forgive us for our carnality and having eyes only for this world. May we work from the light of heaven, redeeming the time in every land, that the harvest may come in!” Amen.
Ephesians 6:23-24 (ESV)
Peace be to the brothers (my add – and sisters:) ,and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Grace be with all who love our Lord Jesus Christ with love incorruptible.
XOXO Judi
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Hi Judi,
This Goldilocks story reminds me of our German fairy tale “Snow White” (written by Grimm Brothers), somehow… 🙄
It is a severe purifying process, indeed, in which it has often been pretty hard for me to make jokes. Sometimes only gallows humor will do.
Peace and grace to you, too, Judi.
Love,
Susanne
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Judi said:
oops! I forgot to add LIKE! * 🙂
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Thanks for the like, Judi. 🙂
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Becky Johnson said:
Thank you, Susanne. A matter of faith indeed!
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Thank you for sharing the same spirit, Becky! 🕊
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Becky Johnson said:
It’s been a very encouraging pleasure ❤
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Indeed, sista! 😊❤
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Anna Waldherr said:
Thank you for another lesson in the Spirit, Susanne.
Love,
A. ❤
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
You are most welcome, dear Anna.
Love to you,
Susanne ❤
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Kenneth Dawson Dawson said:
Good stuff Sue–I have that writing by Sparks on the call of being a prophet and its a great read–I recently had an urging by our Lord to exercise His spirit gift that He gave me–its the gift of being a–Spiritual Director–I gave direction to two ladies who were having an falling out with each other–I do not think they paid any attention to the directions but it sure was a joy using it–And it gave me some extra spiff–I have been unemployed for the last 4 months and looking for a job but nothing yet–so I needed some encouragement–Your posts are always an encouragement!
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Thank you for your encouraging words, Ken.
I am very sorry to hear about your job situation. Praying for you!
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Michael said:
Very good, Susanne. You wrote, “I do not want to write about the BIG things God might be inclined to do through us because that would not be the truth.” Oh yes, how we come to Christ with our worldly thought patterns of greatness. “I want to be the next Billy Graham!” “I am the return of ‘Elijah the prophet before the great and dreadful day of the Lord'”! “I am going to become a successful pastor and have my own mega-church.” It reminds me of the hook that occult “seers” uses to draw people in, “In your past life you were the great Charlemagne (or Joan of Arc, etc.). All these things feed our fleshly egos. We soon forget or ignore Jesus’ words to HIS disciples,
And Jesus called them to him and said to them, “You know that those who are supposed to rule over the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men exercise authority over them. But it shall not be so among you; but whoever would be great among you must be your servant, and whoever would be first among you must be slave of all. For the Son of man also came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” (Mark 10:42-45, RSV)
Would you be great among men?” Be their servant as the Spirit gives you strength to do so. Would you be the greatest one in your church circles? Become a slave of all. God said, “My ways are not your ways.” The way up is the way down. When we come to Christ He starts a process that strips us of all our fleshly desires and ways and replaces them with His humility and love for all, not ourselves. God is reproducing the heart of His Son in us that we might be many sons unto HIS glory, not ours.
Thanks, dear sister, for the great blog once again. ⭐ Remember, the closer we come to speaking the truth that is needed to be heard by the church in this present hour, the less people who will give credence to it. Jesus said, “Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.” As TAS concluded above,
“Every bit of new revelation will call for adjustment, but revelation waits for such a sense of need as to – at least – make for willingness to adjust. The Lord needs that which really does represent His fullest possible thought, and not those who are just doing a good work. But it costs; and this is the ‘burden of the valley of vision’”.
Michael
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Thanks for your very edifying comment, my dear brother.
Actually, I had this Scripture from the gospel of Mark on my mind while writing the article, but somehow I ‘forgot’ to add it. 😉 Thank you for pasting it as the Lord led you, Michael. ⭐
Also, it has become clear to me that less and less people can “like” what we write because the flesh is not pleased reading exhortation after exhortation after… you get the picture. But if it is the truth and God compelled us to publish these things, He will enable us to carry the burden of the valley of vision as well. Our Lord told us,
“If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours.
But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have been guilty of sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.” (Jn 15:18-22 ESV)
Susanne
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Michael said:
Susanne, as Judi pointed out, I love the way the Spirit uses the two of us to complete a thought. You might say that we “springboard” off one another as He gives us inspiration while reading each other’s blogs. When the body of Christ is allowed to function with the wind of the Spirit it is a wonderful and edifying experience.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Yes, Michael, it is a wonderful encouragement to ‘see’ and ‘hear’ His voice working in and through others. It seems to be even more joy to hear Him through other members of the Body than to experience Him working through me. Basically, I love the way God speaks anyway! And I also love how He has been speaking through you, too, during these almost four years now, my brother. ⭐
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Judi said:
🙂 Likes* Galore 🙂
I really love the interaction here and at Wilderness Voice – my 2 “GO-TO” blogs for exhortation, edification, comfort, and correction 🙂
You have reminded me of the words of Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:29-32
“Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets.”
Though we are not sitting in an assembly together, we are in the spirit functioning similarly to this scripture – imo
We do not need to be in the office of a prophet to prophesy …
Revelations 19:10c “…For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Judi
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Michael said:
Thanks, Judi. I agree. Did you know that the word “office” was added by the KJV translators and is not in the New Testament Greek except where it is used to describe the Old Testament functioning of the temple priests? We do not have offices as followers of Christ, but rather we are enabled by His grace to function as the Spirit sees fit. There is no place for hierarchy as members of Christ’s body. “Let all things be done unto edification.”
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Judi said:
Thank you very much for pointing that out Michael! I have learned of other scripture where translators added, removed, or incorrectly translated the original words. I am so grateful that the Spirit of Truth brings to us the TRUTH! Jesus IS the TRUTH as He IS the Word. I get so excited when He has someone correct what I learned in the past. There is still so much to “un-learn”! Truly God is faithful 🙂
Numbers 11:27-30 (ESV)
And a young man ran and told Moses, “Eldad and Medad are prophesying in the camp.” And Joshua the son of Nun, the assistant of Moses from his youth, said, “My lord Moses, stop them.” But Moses said to him, “Are you jealous for my sake? Would that all the Lord’s people were prophets, that the Lord would put his Spirit on them!” And Moses and the elders of Israel returned to the camp.
Matthew 23:8-12(ESV)
“But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. The greatest among you shall be your servant. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.”
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Very good, Judi! ⭐
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Michael said:
Yes, Judi, there are many false interpretations in these works of men. The only way we can know what God really had and has to say is to listen to the Spirit and mere book learning will not do this for us. Our own experiences in these things has brought a deeper meaning to Jesus’ words to the Pharisees and how they apply today,
You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. (John 5:39-40, ESV2011)
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