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Before suggesting a more detailed explanation, I want to first offer you this follow-up vision on the one I posted on the 25th October in 2022 (full particulars here). If you do not want to follow the link, here’s a short summary of the surroundings in that vision.
Jesus was standing behind a sort of speaker’s desk, overlooking a room before Him that resembled an auditorium in college. He was standing on top of this room which was filled with men and women who were sitting in several rows beneath Him. While Jesus was in their back, so to say, they never turned their heads in His direction. Quite the contrary, like hypnotized they were gazing out of a huge half circle panorama window right in front of them where you could see a beautiful landscape.
These people were Christians who were focused on everything that happened in this world, whether good or bad. The visible world represented their whole realm of concern. And it was also here on earth where they expected to find Him, where they served Him, even eagerly….. but alas, they either did not know Him personally or they could not recognize His actual will for them in their life. – End of (the initial) vision
And here is the more recent part of the vision I just explained.
It was only yesterday that I saw two independent tunnels above this auditorium, too. They opened up toward the right and toward the left behind the lecturer’s pulpit where Jesus stood. Turning my back on the room and the people, I dared a short glance into these dark and lengthy corridors. At that moment a flash of lightning came gushing out of the right tunnel, moving rapidly into the left one. That happened three times in a row. I looked a bit bewildered at Jesus, not understanding what that might mean but I got no explanation yet. Today He told me to catch the lightning with my own hand. Actually, I was afraid to do it. Therefore He took my left hand in His as we were waiting for the next flash. Colliding with our hands, the fourth lightning immediately melted into a warm and liquid light that was trickling down on the ground.
After that Jesus took a black canvas, holding it in the same spot where our hands had been before. The fifth flash of lightning then somehow exploded on the canvas, leaving an interesting imprint on it. At once I was reminded of my husband’s astronomic pictures as there seemed to be countless stars before a black background now.
Corona Australis (wide field) – Photo by Paul Schuberth (Tivoli Farm, Namibia 2022)
Our Lord took this painting of sorts and went downstairs on the right side of the auditorium. Leaning this canvas against the huge panorama window, He told me to join Him sitting in a row, too. I felt relieved to be able to spend some time with all my brothers and sisters, seeing that our Lord and God was there right in our midst as well. It was a joyous moment, indeed.
But then a strange thing happened. Whether out from among the audience or from one of these tunnels I don’t know, a man came rushing downstairs. Dressed in a black suit and a white shirt with no tie, he was evidently sure of himself since he took this canvas in his right hand, immediately starting to explain it to an eagerly listening audience. It appeared to me that he was appropriating this image all to himself! 🙄 But what was really weird to me was the fact that I could not hear ANY of his utterances. I only say his lips moving, however, no sound ever reached my ears. 🤔
The end of the vision left me sad. Jesus told me that these people were able to see me but not to see Him. That explained why no one ever looked into His direction. But they did not look at me or at one another, either. Could this really be the Body of Christ where every member ought to be focused on the Head first? Alas, the audience was hanging on every word this man in front of the panorama window shared with them. He seemed to be the go-to guy to interpret this God-given divine revelation (as stars in the sky represent the heavenly realm) without asking Christ’s Spirit (who was close to him) about the proper approach on how to do it. As I also wondered why I could not hear this man talk at all, Jesus reminded me of the following Scripture, pointing me particularly to the last verse.
“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” (Jn 10:1-5 ESV)
It appears to me when God has enabled us to hear His voice more clearly so that we can obey Him by following His moment by moment leading, we won’t be prone to listen to other voices which rather point us to themselves. Jesus said,
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” (Jn 10:27 ESV)
But what can we do, dear brothers and sisters, when we cannot hear His voice that distinctly? There are times when so many different voices besiege us that we get confused about what has come from God, what from man and self, and what actually from the devil. Such a confusion is not a fun condition, as I know myself, yet does it not happen to us repeatedly? How then can we cut through this veil of blurriness to clearly recognize The Truth again?
We know that God is a God of order while Satan is the author of confusion. When we have listened to the wrong voices for a certain time, we might tend to forget that God has given us… a sound mind (cf. 2 Tim 1:7 KJV). I do not want to oversimplify the solution, yet I believe that the devil makes things more complicated than they really are. Since Jesus Christ has been made our wisdom from God (1 Cor 1:30), the door to enter into God’s wisdom on all things seems to be open for every human being for it is written,
“If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.” (Js 1:5 KJV)
Withdrawing from other people and their distracting voices, praying to God silently when nobody watches (cf. Mt 6:18) and asking for HIS wisdom and clarity is a method that might help us. It is even biblical.
“Be still and know that I AM God…. (Ps 46:10 ESV)
“Be still before the Lord and wait patiently for Him” (Ps 37:7 ESV)
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil.” (Prv 3:5-7 ESV)
Photos by Susanne and Paul Schuberth 2022/2023
Allan Halton said:
Very compelling, Suzanne, thank you. I lay it to heart.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
You are very welcome, Allan. Now you have encouraged me once again. Thank you! 🙂
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Susanne, your vision was very familiar to me, except I have seen this many times over in churches and larger Christian gatherings over the years. Many times during the worship I could feel the presence of the Lord building only to have the pastor or special speaker jump up and take control with their own agenda and presumptuous mental display. When this happened each time the Spirit was quenched and I felt a deep disappointment in my heart. It is as if every assembly is assigned a man by the devil to make sure that Jesus doesn’t get a chance to lead His sheep and for them to hear His voice and seek only Him, least that usurper would not get the glory with his own agenda. I am sure that some people in those crowds are born again, but for most of them to hear and obey His voice directly on a daily basis is a totally foreign concept. These usurpers, “strangers” as Jesus calls them, love to have it that way least they loose control of the sheep and not get all the praise for themselves.
“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.” (2Tim 4:3-4, ESV2011)
“An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land:the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes?” (Jer 5:30-31, ESV2011)
“I saw all Israel scattered on the mountains, as sheep that have no shepherd. And the LORD said, ‘These have no master; let each return to his home in peace.’” (1Kgs 22:17, ESV2011)
Susanne, it is a blessing to hear from you as you share your times with the Lord for you always point to Him and not to yourself.
Love IN Christ,
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Thank you for sharing your own experiences on here, Michael (mine were pretty similar as you might know). Also, thank you for your encouraging words. Actually, I am rather sure that I do not yet always point to Him as I am still learning to focus on Christ more often than before.
I had this Scripture as for ‘itching ears’ also on my mind regarding the vision. What would be a sound teaching then? Sureley nothing our old Adam and Eve initially like to hear and follow through, i.e., carrying our own crosses daily and walk closely behind HIM wherever HE leads us. However, I sensed lately that there must be another mystery of God as for the cross and suffering. I think I often read the following verse with a wrong emphasis,
“My goal is to know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His SUFFERINGS, being conformed to His death.” (Phil 3:10 HCSB – emphasis in caps added)
I wanted to know the power of His resurrection and not more suffering – at all. I thought it was already enough. But recently the Lord, particularly as for this vision, gave me another emphasis. It is THE FELLOWSHIP of HIS sufferings. It is fellowship… and it is HIS sufferings we MAY share (no must here, see Phil 3:10 ESV). Somehow I started to see that if we love Him, we do not want to be joyful whenever He suffers. And Christ does suffer! Whenever a sheep seems to be lost or whenever someone who has been enlightened turns away from the truth in order to choose a seemingly easier path. If we love someone, won’t we willingly suffer when they are hurting, too? 🙄 Do we not suffer with Him whenever a member of His Body suffers as we all belong to each other? Is that not true? 🙄
I think Paul pointed to this mystery I mentioned a few verses before where he wrote,
“Whatever happens, my dear brothers and sisters, rejoice in the Lord. I never get tired of telling you these things, and I do it to safeguard your faith.” (Phil 3:1 NLT)
What is impossible for (the old) man, is possible with God when we trust Him (with the faith of Jesus Christ). If we are IN the Lord – as you have often emphasized, my brother – everything is possible since we have been translated from this world and its dark cosmic powers into the kingdom of God’s only Son, into the Kingdom of Heaven. It is here where we realize that IN Christ we have become detached from all our former earthly concerns.
“So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.” (Jn 8:36 ESV)
May God continue to do His work in us so that we might be freed – indeed.
Love IN Christ,
Your sister Sanne
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