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As I lately took the picture I posted above, I was sure I would use it for a blog article. Nonetheless, I had no clue about what to write as yet. A few days later I added Scripture and, still, I had no idea and no desire to write at all. Just today as I was meditating on this Scripture from Matthew chapter seven again, I wondered what this ‘good fruit’ Jesus spoke of might be and how we could recognize it immediately. It seems to me that all things God works in and through us automatically produce good fruit. Good works, however, we do apart from being led by Him have not sprung from this tree which is rooted in Christ and, therefore, they are not really good in God’s sight. They are even bad! That reminds of the following Scripture where Jesus told us,
Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned. If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples. (Jn 15:4-8 ESV)
Abiding in Him is key, but how do we get there? 🙄
Regarding our human nature, we are all some way or other (I am referring here to TAS’ excerpt further below). Either we are reasonable and intellectual people or we are emotionally reactive to whatever kind of feelings pop up in us. We can also be very strong-willed and determined to have it our way, always! We ought to know that none of us can change who we naturally are and, also, that none of these features I just mentioned are wrong in themselves. However, we should also know that this kind of personality we have developed over time is not automatically surrendered to God just because we believe in Him and in what He did for us (atonement and its implications). In fact, there is much more to it, dear brothers and sisters.
I know that I am a both intellectual and emotional woman by nature and that I use my self-will, strongly and only then, when I feel threatened by someone. As a people pleaser I usually let people pick on me until enough is enough. Someone who has drawn narrower boundaries than I did in the past might come over as tougher than I at first sight, but that does NOT mean that my silence in a certain situation would be better than their boldly speaking up. Actually, we cannot judge from the outside whether it is better to act this way or that way UNLESS we know God and His guidance. Below there is a short excerpt from one of Oswald Chambers’ devotionals in which he expresses, I believe perfectly, how difficult it is to prove you are being led by God. Chambers said,
“If we do a thing from a sense of duty, we are putting up a standard in competition with Jesus Christ. We become a “superior person,” and say – “Now in this matter I must do this and that.” We have put our sense of duty on the throne instead of the resurrection life of Jesus. We are not told to walk in the light of conscience or of a sense of duty, but to walk in the light as God is in the light. When we do anything from a sense of duty, we can back it up by argument; when we do anything in obedience to the Lord, there is no argument possible; that is why a saint can be easily ridiculed.”
https://utmost.org/classic/do-ye-now-believe-classic/
No argument possible…. Pheeew!! That’s it indeed! How often I am confronted with God’s leading in a situation, with a slight nudge as to what to do or not to do when soon afterwards countless arguments, springing from my own mind or from listening to others, seem to ridicule that which I initially sensed was the proper thing to do, in this blink of an eye before reason set in and would begin to fight God’s subtle leading. In order to deepen the topic of how to get more balanced, I want to share with you now T. Austin-Sparks’ thoughts on how the life of our Lord differed from what and who we are by nature.
“How poised He was, how balanced! Take the matter of mind, heart and will, and you find in His case those three were perfectly balanced. We are very different naturally.
“I suppose people as a whole can be divided up into three classes. Firstly, those who are more in the realm of their head than anywhere else. They are all head in one way or another. If they are not intellectual, they are of another kind of mentality – introspective, analyzing, going round things in the mind; all thinking, all puzzling, all reasoning, all working in that realm: that is the chief characteristic. You can see it almost in their faces. It is this trying to get through with the head that more or less characterizes people of a certain class.
“Then you have another class, all heart, all feeling, all emotion. They simply live in their feelings, perhaps different forms, but still feelings. They are governed by their feelings, and just how things affect them in the realm of their emotional life. They are either up or they are down, you can never be sure, but you do know that whether they are up or down, it is their feelings that are ruling. If only they would think a little more and not move so much on impulse, they would be more balanced.
“The third class – people governed by will, people of a drive, forceful, assertive. The will is unreasoning sometimes. They do not stop to think. They get a drive on but do not think of the damage they are doing to themselves or other people. Their will overrides feeling, very good sometimes to do that, but to be all will, all of that kind of strength, determination, grip, and force, oh, it is overbearing and does a lot of harm.
“People are more or less divided into those classes naturally, but you cannot find anything like that with the Lord Jesus on earth. You can find will coming in at times very strong, and sometimes heart, and sometimes mind. Yes, mind could come in, and who could stand up against Him in that realm? Some of His answers silenced, paralyzed, those who were cleverest. Look at some of the answers He gives, some of the ways He deals with a problem. They think they have Him this time, there is no way out. A simple statement – and the whole thing collapses; they have not got Him at all!
“But the point is this: while these things are there, they are balanced; there is never strength of will to the hurt of sensibility; there is never strength of emotion to the damage of rightful severity. He does not allow His heart to run away with His sense of judgment. He is perfectly balanced; and that is one of our needs. But that is why the Holy Spirit has come, and this is one of the things that has to take place in a Holy Spirit-ruled life. It has to become a balanced life, to be saved from being lopsided.” (1)
May the Holy Spirit, and no other, more and more guide us in our everyday life, too. Amen.
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Becky Johnson said:
Susanne, thank you for this. So timely. I also appreciated your quoting Oswald Chambers. Wow.
And then Sparks’ article. Yes, I have read this one! Oh – ! I have been so ‘governed’ by my feelings. Which leads me to something that He used to enlighten me recently…
Since Christmas I have been enjoying a couple of Handel’s Messiah’s songs on my iPod as I have the earbuds in while I do housework. The lyrics come often as the song plays:
“For unto us a child is born,
To us a son is giv’n,
The government shall rest on him,
Th’ anointed one from heav’n.
His name is Wonderful Counselor,
The Mighty God is he,
The Everlasting Father,
The humble Prince of Peace.”
As usual, I’m at the sink doing dishes when it “dawns’ on me what this ‘the government shall rest on him,’ means. It had forever been lost on me. We really must have our definitions enlarged in order to know the truth that sets us free. I digress. All things of God are governed now by and in Christ. Oh – ! That is a broader picture. Bringing it much closer to home, and into the heart of the individual, we are now, in life, in all things, governed by Christ…not my feelings. This continues to be progressive. But thank God we’re on our way. He is taking us further.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
You’re welcome, Becky. Glad it was timely for you at that. Yup, the Ossie Chambers quote hit home with me, too, like Sparks’ writings most often do.
To be governed by Christ continually, this is my goal, too, and I know I am not there yet. Too many ups and downs aka mood swings, dependant on the way I perceive my personal circumstances, that is.
I am happy to hear that you like to listen to a former German fellow-countryman and convinced Christian (just listening to the short video you linked – love it!). In order to write his name properly in my native language one ought to have a German keyboard, I am afraid. It is spelled Georg Friedrich Händel.
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Michael said:
I think that Handel had a handle on spiritual things more than most. 🙂
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Hahaha – Händel had a handle… yup, he had that, speaking spiritually! 🙂
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Becky Johnson said:
Oh, Susanne! I did not nor do I ever intend to imply Christ governing is an individual’s “burden” nor any such thing I have arrived at. I share from this classroom He has me in, and I am always dumbfounded when what He shows me is NOT what is generally preached not believed. The rules govern, the “church” governs, the pastor governs, our “works” govern, or even our hearts. So to have the revelation that Christ is the governing factor in the things of God now is… Altogether humbling and stupendous 🙂
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
I know what you meant, Becky! ❤ I hope my response did not upset you in any way. 🙄 It is truly humbling and stupendous to experience that we can never enter the kingdom of heaven UNLESS God brings us in. It seems to me, beforehand, we need to despair of ourselves in all areas of life. If we did not have this experience of utter helplessness and weakness of our old nature, we could not appreciate God’s grace that gives us a new heart and a new mind, eventually. God forbid we could ever display the good fruit of a new creation on our own!
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Becky Johnson said:
Not upset in the least! And, YES! A despair of ourselves for nothing we do in our flesh can usher us in, only by (re)birth, and this only by the Holy Spirit.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Amen, my dear sister! 🙂
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Michael said:
Susanne, one time I had a pastor the asked me, “How are you doing, Michael?”
I replied, “Not too bad under the circumstances.”
To this he answered, “Well, what are you doing under THERE?”
He gave me much to think about. Finally, the verse came to me,
“No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.” (Rom 8:37, ESV2011)
Seeing ourselves IN Christ instead of in ourselves is the greatest part of the battle.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
May He put us into Him so that we can finally see what it means to be IN Christ 24/7. Am still awaiting this blissful condition… 😉
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Fred said:
Thank you. I am intellectual and emotional. Kind of like you actually.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
You’re welcome, Fred. Funny we’re pretty similar, isn’t it… 😉
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Michael said:
I know what you mean, Fred.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
🙂
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KENNETH DAWSON said:
Yes Sue there is such a difference of being controlled by Gods being verse our own being–I find calmness under His control no matter what the situation–something else I learned when desiring to hear Gods voice is to only listen to the first voice I hear in my mind and to ignore all other voices.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Ken, I often wish I was controlled by Him. But alas, my flesh has its own free will and as you might know, the flesh dies VERY hard!
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Michael said:
Susanne,
This was a new thought for me as to the fact that Jesus was spiritually balanced of mind, will and emotions. He walked with all three of these parts of His soul in subservience to the Father and only in this way are they usable to God. He had the intellectual Pharisees and Sadducees in derision when they tried to trap Him with their intellectual arguments and answered them by Father’s power working in His mind. (i.e., “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”). He was moved with great joy when He looked up to heaven and said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.” (Luke 10:21, NIV). And the shortest verse in the Bible simply says, “Jesus wept.” Yet, when the woman was weeping on His feet and kissing them He seemed quite objective and without emotion and was able to address the sin of judging Him and her that was in the heart of Simon the Pharisee. His will was set to do the will of His father, yet, when He prayed in the garden at the end, He prayed, “Father I would that this cup (of suffering) be taken from me..” and then said, “Never the less, not my will but thine be done.”
The point is that we can depend on our own souls (mind, will and emotions) and be in total disobedience to our Father or we can pray that He so changes us that we no longer rely on these, but on the Holy Spirit to govern our souls in these areas and so weaken our areas of strength that He prevails in us. TAS also wrote,
“It is a very difficult thing, a crucifixion indeed, for the natural man to do nothing and have nothing, and especially to know nothing. But in the case of His most greatly used instruments, God has made this a very real part of their training and preparation. The utter emptying of all self-resource is the only way to have “all things of (out from) God” (2 Cor 5:18). On this basis, even Christ elected to live. We need not remind you of Moses’ “I am not eloquent” (Exo 4:10), and Jeremiah’s “I am a child” (Jer 1:6), and Paul’s “that we should not trust in ourselves” (2 Cor 1:9). These were of a school in which the great lesson of the difference between natural and spiritual was taught experimentally.” http://www.austin-sparks.net/english/books/001341.html
May we all be crucified in those areas of our souls that we have want to depend on instead of yielding to the voice of our Father. Thank you, dear sister, for this latest blog article.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
Amen to your prayer, Michael. You are very welcome as to this blog article, my dear brother. This is a great quote from TAS!
Thank you very much for your well-wrought deliberations and examples on how Jesus displayed a perfectly Spirit-led mind, will, and emotions. ⭐
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Anna Waldherr said:
Much of my argument w/ the Lord about His sovereignty centered on the injustice in the world. To tell the truth, this stemmed from the negative experiences I’d had, myself, as a child. I just universalized those, and blamed Him for them. Pride — as much as grief and anger — pushed me into atheism.
Though I eventually returned to the faith, I still was not entirely convinced that my sense of justice was not greater than the Lord’s. Talk about pride.
And I very much wanted tangible fruit. I longed to establish some grand structure to accomplish the Lord’s will. I remember shouting into the phone, when we were still trying to get the legal clinic up and running: “Maybe God has abandoned these people. But I won’t!” It’s amazing He did not strike me down, then and there. I was certainly a prime example of the “natural man”.
But God’s mercy is greater than ours. I can only thank Him for His restraint.
Thank you for your latest lesson, Susanne. ❤ 🙂 ❤
With love,
A.
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Susanne Schuberth (Germany) said:
You are welcome as to this lesson, dear Anna. ❤ 🙂 ❤
Thank you so much for your very honest words, Anna. I do know how easy it is to get mad at God if He does not act as I have seen fit. I believe He won’t strike us down because He is a patient God who knows about difficulties to really trust and love Him. Without His mercy, I would be lost, for sure!
As I read Michael’s comment on my other blog post here, I thought part of TAS devotional Michael had pasted there somehow fits in here, too. Sparks said,
“What we see as seeming necessary to be done for the Lord’s glory [or for any reasoning that comes out from us] is not the criterion of service. Many things are embarked upon by the mere simple… judgment of the heart, when confronted by what is judged… something needing to be done. A tragic situation, for example, calls for action; we have the means to meet that situation, and so we embark upon it… A vast variety of undertakings have been embarked upon in that way, from that basis, and the Lord Jesus in this chapter says, “No! Not so!” He is not governed by the apparent demand of a situation. He is not governed by the impact of things upon Himself…
“With Him it is a question of what God is doing, and doing just at the particular time. With one object, God does different things at different times, and has a different emphasis from time to time, and those who are really in union with Christ have to be governed by that which Christ at that particular time is Himself undertaking, is giving Himself to: “…what things soever He doeth these the Son also doeth in like manner.” It is a matter of what God is doing, and life-union with Him in Christ for the accomplishment of that.”
With love,
Susanne ❤
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